Doesn't matter. The Court of Public Opinion has already found him guilty. Regardless of whether or not he did it, his reputation is now officially worthless.
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Doesn't matter. The Court of Public Opinion has already found him guilty. Regardless of whether or not he did it, his reputation is now officially worthless.
Your comments are very interesting.
The ongoing relationship with 18 yo, well that is RH version, the alleged victim stated that RH began abusing her when she was 13. This was reported to her psychiatrist, no names, just a famous person and also to school friend at the time, this was verified.
It would never have made it to the courts if there was not enough evidence.
The judge mentioned the likelihood of coincidence is reduced greatly when there are many victims coming up with exactly the same description/version of the events.
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They have cut him off, contract gone
I can't wait for the day when the media move on to a more recent and interesting news event, and only mention it once ever again when the verdict comes down.
Sorta like the whole Essendon Footy Club saga...
The bloke is 80, hasn't lived here for centuries, was a star decades ago...but he is an Aussie, so let's belt the public around the head with it for months, hey?
I guess it is an issue in Aus, especially Perth as at this stage councils, schools, and quite a few homes have his artwork. It's looking a bit inappropriate displaying his artwork in public. There was a water playground named after him, I'm not sure if there was other Places also.
Hi Invstor
Good point, I was only reading this snippet in the West Australian last week regarding this issue, here is a summary of the article
Bassendean Mayor John Gangell told Fairfax Media the council had this week removed a framed photograph portrait of "the boy from Bassendean" from the council chambers and was considering withdrawing his honour of being named a freeman of the municipality, depending on the court?s verdict.
?At this stage, the town has removed his portrait from the council chambers,? Cr Gangell said on Wednesday afternoon.
?The council took the view that due to the allegations that have come out...and the fact that there has been enough evidence to charge him and take it to court, we thought it was inappropriate to have his portrait continuing to hang in the council chambers with the allegations pendingRead more: http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/r...-bassendean-20140528-zrr6p.html#ixzz353rPPkuS
Good point, I was only reading this snippet in the West Australian last week regarding this issue, here is a summary of the article
Bassendean Mayor John Gangell told Fairfax Media the council had this week removed a framed photograph portrait of "the boy from Bassendean" from the council chambers and was considering withdrawing his honour of being named a freeman of the municipality, depending on the court?s verdict.
?At this stage, the town has removed his portrait from the council chambers,? Cr Gangell said on Wednesday afternoon.
?The council took the view that due to the allegations that have come out...and the fact that there has been enough evidence to charge him and take it to court, we thought it was inappropriate to have his portrait continuing to hang in the council chambers with the allegations pendingRead more: http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/r...-bassendean-20140528-zrr6p.html#ixzz353rPPkuS
Absolutely, can not argue with this, and many cases don't make it to court because there is not enough evidence to proceed with a trial. The point I was making was that RH was charged as there has been enough evidence to take him to trial, now it up to the jury to analyse the evidence etc.
I too was upset to hear about RH. I grew up in Bassendean and followed his career. My father used to swim in the Swan River against him, he was a champion swimmer.
No one can take away his artistic talent.
But sorry. I have no time and feel nothing but contempt for any person who par takes of this behaviour. Always so sad for family members.
No one can take away his artistic talent.
But sorry. I have no time and feel nothing but contempt for any person who par takes of this behaviour. Always so sad for family members.
It was reported that police evidence was very strong, its very difficult to convict someone of these crimes due to the time frame I think 30 years. However due to this evidence there were 12 unanimous guilty verdicts of indecent assaults, youngest child was 6.
What he did was very serious that's why he will be given a jail sentence, could be up to 2 years per each offence.
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What he did was very serious that's why he will be given a jail sentence, could be up to 2 years per each offence.
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Agree with you, I feel for his victims, but justice has been served today.
Apparently there are now also more alleged victims coming forward and police in UK will be investigating these and if there is enough evidence there will be further charges.
Not sure what is happening with regards to the child pornography found on his hard drive, when these charges will proceed.
I think we will see all his paintings removed from galleries, any company associated with RH will be pulling the pin for sure.
Agree, it does not matter how long ago these incidents occurred, it saddens me that many in the industry turned a blind eye.
MTR
Not sure what is happening with regards to the child pornography found on his hard drive, when these charges will proceed.
I think we will see all his paintings removed from galleries, any company associated with RH will be pulling the pin for sure.
Agree, it does not matter how long ago these incidents occurred, it saddens me that many in the industry turned a blind eye.
MTR
I really thought that the evidence against him was weak. I know the stories were similar but what does that mean, really? It seems to me that there are only so many ways to grope someone.
Having said that I think on the balance of probabilities he is guilty. Evidence was heard, jury clearly took their responsibilities seriously. It is so utterly tragic that they were assaulted and could do nothing for years. Of course the worst case is that poor girl who was a family friend.
It seems like Rolf Harris was more effective than most at hiding his true character. With Jimmy Saville it's obvious that many people knew what he was doing (or at least some of it) and chose to cover it up. Disgusting but not surprising, when you consider the degree to which the church and many lay people chose to cover up abuse by members of the catholic church.
Having said that I think on the balance of probabilities he is guilty. Evidence was heard, jury clearly took their responsibilities seriously. It is so utterly tragic that they were assaulted and could do nothing for years. Of course the worst case is that poor girl who was a family friend.
It seems like Rolf Harris was more effective than most at hiding his true character. With Jimmy Saville it's obvious that many people knew what he was doing (or at least some of it) and chose to cover it up. Disgusting but not surprising, when you consider the degree to which the church and many lay people chose to cover up abuse by members of the catholic church.
That's the thing Maggie more news is coming forward about Saville, he had access to any area in the hospital because of his fame, power, money, this would not happen today.
The most recent reports were that he was interfering with corpses, this has been verified. Very ugly stuff, a very sick puppy. Also the Saville case had nothing whatsoever to do with the RH allegations at the time, totally separate. What happened was police asked the public to come forward regarding Saville and women started coming forward about RH, the rest is history. Women continue to come forward.
All the stories were similar, what does this mean?? Well none of the victims new each other, some of the victims lived in different parts of the world, it makes the prosecutions case stronger because the likelihood of coincidence becomes less likely. Of course this is not the only reason he was found guilty, there was other evidence that was submitted in the court.
As far as RH groping, and how many ways could he do this? this comment is minimising what he actually did IMO, he is a convicted paedophile, youngest victim age 6. RH was grooming his daughter's best friend and he was entering her bedroom and having sexual intercourse with her while his daughter was in the room sleeping.
He has been convicted, the evidence speaks for itself and the jury took over 8 days to make a decision and it was unanimous.
I don't feel sorry for RH, he has ruined lives, I hope his victims can now move on.
The most recent reports were that he was interfering with corpses, this has been verified. Very ugly stuff, a very sick puppy. Also the Saville case had nothing whatsoever to do with the RH allegations at the time, totally separate. What happened was police asked the public to come forward regarding Saville and women started coming forward about RH, the rest is history. Women continue to come forward.
All the stories were similar, what does this mean?? Well none of the victims new each other, some of the victims lived in different parts of the world, it makes the prosecutions case stronger because the likelihood of coincidence becomes less likely. Of course this is not the only reason he was found guilty, there was other evidence that was submitted in the court.
As far as RH groping, and how many ways could he do this? this comment is minimising what he actually did IMO, he is a convicted paedophile, youngest victim age 6. RH was grooming his daughter's best friend and he was entering her bedroom and having sexual intercourse with her while his daughter was in the room sleeping.
He has been convicted, the evidence speaks for itself and the jury took over 8 days to make a decision and it was unanimous.
I don't feel sorry for RH, he has ruined lives, I hope his victims can now move on.
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The commission into abuse of children in care states that 22 years is the average time taken for an abuse victim to come forward and 9 years old is the average of girl victims and 10 years for boys.
Defenceless children, to be used and abuse. Appalling
Defenceless children, to be used and abuse. Appalling
LesleyA
Had no idea it was 22 years, I think its the fact that in many cases victims feel guilt, this in part is possibly why they don't come forward.
I am gobsmacked how many people in the industry now coming forward with claims of witnessing RH behaving inappropriately and just turning a blind eye.
Had no idea it was 22 years, I think its the fact that in many cases victims feel guilt, this in part is possibly why they don't come forward.
I am gobsmacked how many people in the industry now coming forward with claims of witnessing RH behaving inappropriately and just turning a blind eye.
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