How does the term "charismatic" come to mean "gift of grace"?
When you say that there are charismatic Anglicans - I am somewhat confused because I do not see anglicans speaking in tongues, healing or prophesising.
Why does the church give training in small business or getting out of debt? Do they hire some financial advisors to give these talks or is it usually one parishioner to another. I do not recall this happening in ten years of attending Catholic mass.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charisma .. i got it from the dictionary! I suspect the commonly used charisma descended from the spiritual charisma.
In terms of training, it could be either, and i guess the purpose is that people need to see their faith as a whole of lfe experiencel, rather than just Sunday. in my experience, catholic churches dont like to focus on money, and tend to value poverty more highly than prosperity. (big generalisation though!)
Anglicans generally would not experience gifts of spirit in a Sunday morning service. but there are a number of churches who run healing services.. the one next to Town Hall has one of the best healing services (of any church) and its been going for many years.
China, its possible the operating profits of the church have suffered due to the payouts caused by sexually active priests coveting children in their care and this is why they are branching out as financial advisors. I imagine they receive commissions on managed funds they have parishioners invest in (4% in and out fees) and possibly receive trailings on any loans they supply to those wishing to roll over their debt. Any income they receive is also tax free if they registeted themselves to the ATO as a religion.
In my experience, churches are not working as financial advisors in any specific way, and I would definitely feel uncomfortbale iwht the church having managed funds for their m
embers. Are you saying this from knowledge, or just imagination?
there are a few churches that have mistreated children.... but they are definitly in the minority and the bigger issue with funds are that less people go to church these days.
Have you been to Hillsong, or are you just relying on reports on A CUrrent Affair etc from disgruntled former members?Try Hillsong. Not exactly a church, more like a capitalistic congregation that evokes god and jesus a lot. But they do tell wives to keep feminine and sexy for their husbands if they want to keep them.
Maybe because divorcees would contribute much less financially.
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they also tell wives that they can preach, lead worship, work in business... hardly a "keep silent" approach.
I think you'd be terrified of some of the strong women there. Have a listen to Bobbie Houston or Christine Caine.....
Would it be so funny if he slapped her on the back of the head and booted her out the door and replaced her hotter, younger more feminine women eager to abide by wedding vowels not changed for her convenience in exchange for his commitment?
That minister obviously has never read his own bible, not heard the teaching of his own church. Meaning he is not fit to be one.
Its a joke PB.... take it as such!!
and it was told by a minister, who did know his bible.......... as a joke!!
I think its reasonable for me to share this things, given the amount of tripe that you have put on this thread..