Margret Thatcher: Relevance for Australian Politics

Despite the venom many have shown towards Mrs Thatcher - and celebration at her passing - I respect her immensely.

She did what needed to be done at the time and made the hard decisions even when faced with violent opposition.

She dragged Britain kicking and screaming into the modern age by abandoning money sucking, dying industries and encouraging a new direction and innovation for the country as a whole ... something our current governments could learn from.
 
As the late Thatcher said, the problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. RIP.

I guess she would be horrified to see the end result, "Economies and society awash with debts that no one can repay and toxic assets whose extent no one can fathom."
 
Thatcher cared little about freedom and human rights abuses, I've no respect for someone that supported Pinochet.

Well! At least she made the trains run on time!

*Hope some of you get the irony*

There can be no question that MT was a great economic manager. She will always be remembered as a champion of free markets. She took the helm a short time after the IMF bailed out the UK. When she left, the country was well on its way to an economic renaissance.

Her attitudes on immigration and apartheid were two contentious areas which brought her into disrepute. There was a fair bit of hypocrisy in regard to the former. Like John Howard, she shamelessly used immigration/xenophobia as a means of getting votes. But, looking back at the statistics, immigration actually rose during her tenure - just as it did during 'Honest' John time.

All said, she was democratically elected. T'was the will of the People.

I'm aghast at the chorus of hate that has arisen after her death. Most of the protesters were not even born when she was in power.

RIP Maggie. You were not a perfect person (who is?) but you changed the world.
 
For all her faults, she was a great woman.

Sure, she was not faultless. Nevertheless, I am incandescent with anger at how some people wish to trample on all she did for the UK.

RIP Maggie.
 
I was incandescent with anger as to how she laid the long term foundations for all that is happening in the UK now, and destroyed the consensus politics that had worked ( although not perfectly) since the second world war. As a monetarist, interest rates were higher under her tenure than any government since WW2, she presided over the longest recession Britain had seen, bailed out her arms dealing son from a little bit of strife :p in Africa, ripped communities apart especially in the North through the destruction of manufacturing industries in the UK, squandered billions of pounds of North sea oil income when had we invested it, the UK would have been in a much better fiscal position and may have been able to ride out the GFC. Thats just domestic policy - Pinochet, De Klerk - close personal friends, supported Saddam, called Mandella a terrorist, torpedoed the Belgrano when it was outside the exclusion zone. And before anyone states she "won" the cold war, it was the more enlightened members of the soviet Communist party that dismantled Communism. I lived there - Grew up through it, saw shattered lives, disenfranchised communities, the start of the destruction of the welfare state and the common belief that we support the least fortunate. Not a place I enjoyed living. I don't celebrate her death but neither will I eulogise adn pretend these things didnt happen.
 
I was incandescent with anger as to how she laid the long term foundations for all that is happening in the UK now, and destroyed the consensus politics that had worked ( although not perfectly) since the second world war. As a monetarist, interest rates were higher under her tenure than any government since WW2, she presided over the longest recession Britain had seen, bailed out her arms dealing son from a little bit of strife :p in Africa, ripped communities apart especially in the North through the destruction of manufacturing industries in the UK, squandered billions of pounds of North sea oil income when had we invested it, the UK would have been in a much better fiscal position and may have been able to ride out the GFC. Thats just domestic policy - Pinochet, De Klerk - close personal friends, supported Saddam, called Mandella a terrorist, torpedoed the Belgrano when it was outside the exclusion zone. And before anyone states she "won" the cold war, it was the more enlightened members of the soviet Communist party that dismantled Communism. I lived there - Grew up through it, saw shattered lives, disenfranchised communities, the start of the destruction of the welfare state and the common belief that we support the least fortunate. Not a place I enjoyed living. I don't celebrate her death but neither will I eulogise adn pretend these things didnt happen.

Didn't the Poms train the Khmer Rouge and support Pol Pot during her tenure? I wonder if she supported that too.
 
I was incandescent with anger as to how she laid the long term foundations for all that is happening in the UK now, and destroyed the consensus politics that had worked ( although not perfectly) since the second world war. As a monetarist, interest rates were higher under her tenure than any government since WW2, she presided over the longest recession Britain had seen, bailed out her arms dealing son from a little bit of strife :p in Africa, ripped communities apart especially in the North through the destruction of manufacturing industries in the UK, squandered billions of pounds of North sea oil income when had we invested it, the UK would have been in a much better fiscal position and may have been able to ride out the GFC. Thats just domestic policy - Pinochet, De Klerk - close personal friends, supported Saddam, called Mandella a terrorist, torpedoed the Belgrano when it was outside the exclusion zone. And before anyone states she "won" the cold war, it was the more enlightened members of the soviet Communist party that dismantled Communism. I lived there - Grew up through it, saw shattered lives, disenfranchised communities, the start of the destruction of the welfare state and the common belief that we support the least fortunate. Not a place I enjoyed living. I don't celebrate her death but neither will I eulogise adn pretend these things didnt happen.

Nobody says she was faultless. Open your heart a bit....

She made change that needed to be made. Yes, it was painful. But it was necessary. The UK could not survive on a horse and buggy whip economy. I was never a huge MT fan....but, in retrospect, she did what needed to be done.

Didn't the Poms train the Khmer Rouge and support Pol Pot during her tenure? I wonder if she supported that too.

This is ridiculous, bordering on evil.

The UK was never for Pol Pot. Lets not make political mileage from the suffering of millions of Cambodians.
 
She made change that needed to be made. Yes, it was painful. But it was necessary. The UK could not survive on a horse and buggy whip economy. I was never a huge MT fan....but, in retrospect, she did what needed to be done.


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The positive economic reforms she made does not mean she gets a free pass on all her horrendous decisions too.
 
This is ridiculous, bordering on evil.

The UK was never for Pol Pot. Lets not make political mileage from the suffering of millions of Cambodians.

Sorry. It's accepted historical fact. Less overt that her support for that murderous fascist Pinochet however.

It's been documented that both the US and the UK were involved in training Khmer Rouge soldiers especially post Irangate, when the US pulled out of those forms of operations.

It was down to the simple fact that Vietnamese backed groups had overthrown the Khmer Rouge, and despite the Khmer Rouge being one of the worst tyrannical governments in history, they were still "better" than the Vietnamese. So the west carried out training for Khmer Rouge troops and funded them.
 
As a monetarist, interest rates were higher under her tenure than any government since WW2, she presided over the longest recession Britain had seen,

As did every government (including Australian Labor Party) at this time

squandered billions of pounds of North sea oil income when had we invested it, the UK would have been in a much better fiscal position and may have been able to ride out the GFC.

Hmmm - sounds like the current Labor Party

Thats just domestic policy - Pinochet, De Klerk - close personal friends, supported Saddam, called Mandella a terrorist, torpedoed the Belgrano when it was outside the exclusion zone.

As did every political leader of that time ... the devil you know ...

the start of the destruction of the welfare state

Was that really such a bad thing ... we seem to have almost nothing but a welfare dependant state in Australia.
 
MT's funeral on Wed.

The amount of hate is unprecedented and reaching a crescendo

All you right wingers take note!
 
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