Scarcity of Women Leads Men to Spend More, Save Less

Weg

Yes something i cant understand. But then people keep starting world wars and that is also something i fail to understand.

I actually think a polyamorous relationship can work but both parties have to agree. Very common in malaysia where most husbands can have up to 5 wives and that seems to work quite well. Who knows maybe this will become more common and in those cases i think marriage could work as the females get the children they desire and the men get the sex with different girls they desire. At least you are open minded about discussing it.
 
Weg...I did say so in an earlier post.

As for marriage and sticking to the one partner....I am quite happy to do that as it works out well for us currently.

But things change, people change, so who knows what can happen in the future.

Sometimes a 3rd partner in the scheme of things is good for both partners and the couple when the 3rd person is not present. Either sex.:D
 
Weg

Yes something i cant understand. But then people keep starting world wars and that is also something i fail to understand.

I actually think a polyamorous relationship can work but both parties have to agree. Very common in malaysia where most husbands can have up to 5 wives and that seems to work quite well. Who knows maybe this will become more common and in those cases i think marriage could work as the females get the children they desire and the men get the sex with different girls they desire. At least you are open minded about discussing it.

I personally wouldn't like 5 husbands, so can't quite understand the 5 wives :eek:.

Much better to have 1 husband/wife and discrete liasons (that the husband/wife knows about) so there are no favourites or bickering amongst each other, which does happen - just visit some Muslim forums to understand some of the problems. Na, you don't want too many spouses.

Can't remember which African country it is which practices this, but the average number of partners each person has is around 100 per life time.

Apparently when the man has been away for a few days and arrives home he enters the village but takes his time going home, to allow the wifes lover to leave.

That sounds like a far better set up imo - sadly in their case though no heeding of the safe sex warnings has resulted in the rate of HIV going through the roof.
 
Weg

Agreed. Although I think the liasons without the marriage bit is much better. Personally i don't see the advantage for a man in being married where he has other partners. Maybe for some men they like the opportunity to share their life with one particular woman. For me I achieve that through friends and family and don't feel the loneliness some men do without having a partner in their life. If loneliness is the issue then I do understand why some people get married. They like having someone to go out with, go shopping with etc. Maybe they don't have many outside interests or a small group of friends and so this becomes extremely important otherwise they feel socially isolated. For those who have an active social life and many outside interests what would be the benefit for them of being married ? Having children ? Can easily have that without being married and for some people they believe that having a stable mum and dad at home is important. That makes sense but it doesn't make marriage attractive it just makes it a reason. A plausible one but can't see why anyone you would bother. But this is a man speaking and men and women are very very different in this type of thinking. I think most men would love to have a bit on the side every now and then. Those those argue against this are rare. They do exist but anyone that has looked at porn doesn't really believe this otherwise their wife would fulfill all their needs. If I took them to a go-go bar their hands would be all over the girls in a matter of seconds. Seen that happy many, many times. Took some happily married guys to some bars and the minute they see these girls in their bikinis they go wild. It just reinforces to me the theory that men are not meant to have one sexual partner their entire life.
 
I personally wouldn't like 5 husbands, so can't quite understand the 5 wives :eek:.

5 wives/husbands? Mamma mia!

"Bigamy is having one wife too many. Monogamy is the same." - Oscar Wilde

I don't know how the whole thing with having 5 wives in Malaysia works out for most men. For every man (I'm assuming wealthy men) that have five wives, 4 men miss out on the opportunity to have someone to spend their lives with. So it's not really a win for everyone.
 
cm, but men keep on getting married :confused:.

Keep in mind weg, that there is MASSIVE pressure on men to get married in our society. Unfortunately, even in 2012, men that choose not to get married are seen by most people as unmanly or shirking their responsibilities or refuse to grow up.
 
mr fab

the comment re being seen to shirk their responsibilities or a playboy are very true. a few people who have met me from this forum and know me well know that i am very honest with the girls that i am with. i've had many partners and some of the forumites have met them. the one thing that they respect, despite our differences in opinion, is that i tell all the girls i am with that i am out to have fun and i don't know how long that will last with them. vice versa if they tire of me and my ways they can always move on. i don't trick a girl and tell her i am something i am not. honesty is the key and there are many girls out there happy to enjoy the time with you as long as you are honest with them about your intentions. if they want to find a guy to marry and have children then plenty of guys out there who will give them what they want when they want it.
 
I agree with all your points, although marriage (or any longstanding union) when successful can be highly satisfying because of those strong bonds that come from that type of family living arrangement.

The sense of family and bonding is compounded with the addition of children as well, but if the marriage is unsuccessful and the results of parenting unsuccessful, the results would be the complete opposite.

So I'd assume one of the reasons that drives people to marriage is that - seeking that successful union.

There's also conditioning (I'm sure most people don't stop to think why they do what they do) and other more complex reasons like dependencies, to fill voids and and other psychopathy that leads people to marry :).

Obviously this applies to both sexes because they both seek it, when unfortunately both men and women aren't without their problems.

My issue is individuals blaming gender for their issues/complex needs.
 
Keep in mind weg, that there is MASSIVE pressure on men to get married in our society. Unfortunately, even in 2012, men that choose not to get married are seen by most people as unmanly or shirking their responsibilities or refuse to grow up.

See comment on conditioning.

There's also conditioning (I'm sure most people don't stop to think why they do what they do)

I think I scanned a news report recently that marriage rates are dropping ??
 
Weg

Wanted to say thanks for your input and particuarly from a female perspective. Many would have run from this topic but youve given a refreshing opinion from the opposite sex. Thanks.
 
Weg

Wanted to say thanks for your input and particuarly from a female perspective. Many would have run from this topic but youve given a refreshing opinion from the opposite sex. Thanks.

Seconded. It's good to have a rational, even discussion with a woman on such topics. I would like to also express thanks to Penny for the same in our discussion recently.
 
Awww... thanks guys.

Maybe my points are rational because I think most males are like most females, in that they try to live their lives without consciously scamming or screwing the opposite sex.

Mark, I'm sure you've picked up on some of my views in the past supporting men in regards to family law, femanazi views. I can see where you come from in that respect.
 
Marriage doesn't have value, mostly because the government has devalued it.

When someone living together can receive the same financial gains, why marry?
When both partners are required to have joint custody (except in rare circumstances, because of mental/physically instability of a parent) child support can be abolished.

Marriage is nothing but a formal contract between two people.
When, or if, it regains value, is still to be seen.

Multiple partners is a non issue.
That is up to that relationship to decide.
Personally, if they want multiple, look for another spouse than me.
I don't share. No man is worth sharing.
 
Marriage is but a piece of papper...nothing more and not worth it.

In fact here in Thailand it is frowned upon because of the legal issues after you are married.....many thais simply live together these days....especially those with high value.

As for multiple partners....I could not and would not want another 1 or 2 on the side......we prefer to include the extra 1.
 
They are the unsecure ones who see the need to adapt to some social norm that has become worthless for men.
And most times to the first female that will have them, or pressures them by withdrawing sex.

Or they just buy a wife overseas because they are so bitter no women will ever touch them without it being an economic procedure.

I'm not married, have no desire to get married. My partner understands then and has learnt to stop raising the issue.

We've lived together for 4 years.
 
Yes...I am very bitter....it is the only explanation possible.

The guy sitting in the restaurant several nights ago with his weight challenged wife and sneaking peaks of my darling when his beloved looked the other way is most definitely not bitter.
 
Yes...I am very bitter....it is the only explanation possible.

The guy sitting in the restaurant several nights ago with his weight challenged wife and sneaking peaks of my darling when his beloved looked the other way is most definitely not bitter.

Did you buy her? If not then clearly my comments were not directed at you :rolleyes:

An ex of mine was, well, an asian mongrel. But she was also an Australian. Completely different matter than getting a wife based on an economic exchange so you can be the dominant one in the relationship and have a subservient wife.
 
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