Scarcity of Women Leads Men to Spend More, Save Less

[investor2009]

I thought we were animals? Whats the difference? Ohh thats right, we're 'superior'
Anyhow, yes it's true. Some blokes will do justt about anything for a Woman.

[SamSiam]

I drove like 2000km's out of my intended way for 2 swedish ones once.....

[Ideo]

Originally Posted by coastymike

Gave up on western women a long time ago. Asian women also want to be cared for, provided for and looked after but in return you will also be looked after. None of this working your *** to the bone only to come home and hear the other half complain you dont do your share while she has been out having her nails done and having coffee with her girlfriends. Id never date a non asian and plenty of single asian girls around. Well where i live there are millions.

Yeah, I think you are a bit wrong there.

I know for me and my circle of friends this is the situation - both male and females work full time, and then share around the housework. Or get a cleaner.

This is how my household works. Yeah, I make more money than she does, but so what? We work similar hours so I don't see why I shouldn't do as much around the house as she does.

Maybe you were just going after gold diggers?

[weg]

Originally Posted by Ideo

Yeah, I think you are a bit wrong there.

I know for me and my circle of friends this is the situation - both male and females work full time, and then share around the housework. Or get a cleaner.

This is how my household works. Yeah, I make more money than she does, but so what? We work similar hours so I don't see why I shouldn't do as much around the house as she does.

Maybe you were just going after gold diggers?

Could it be that many of these men (some even ) have been rejected, rather than the other way around, because of their skewed ideas and expectations, and flaws of their own, AND they've chased the wrong women.

The fact is these 'compliant' women don't exist here because the desperation to form a union with a western man doesn't exist, like it does with Asian women in third world counrties.

When there are heaps of normal, decent women amongst the millions out there that these men don't tap into because they either refuse to or can't, one has to wonder if the issues lay with the men .

Lets face it Asian women in third world countries don't reject Western men. The biggest knob in Australia could find himself a doting wife in Asia within 5 minutes of landing .

[o0o]

Originally Posted by weg

Could it be that many of these men (some even ) have been rejected, rather than the other way around, because of their skewed ideas and expectations, and flaws of their own, AND they've chased the wrong women.

The fact is these 'compliant' women don't exist here because the desperation to form a union with a western man doesn't exist, like it does with Asian women in third world counrties.

When there are heaps of normal, decent women amongst the millions out there that these men don't tap into because they either refuse to or can't, one has to wonder if the issues lay with the men .

Lets face it Asian women in third world countries don't reject Western men. The biggest knob in Australia could find himself a doting wife in Asia within 5 minutes of landing .

Ouch, that's harsh
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[Fifth]

Originally Posted by o0o

Ouch, that's harsh

Harsh but true.

[o0o]

Originally Posted by Fifth

Harsh but true.

I read weg's post as a thinly veiled dig at coastymike, his choice of partner and his inability to get a "normal" western woman because of his "flaws" and skewed ideas.

[Ideo]

Originally Posted by o0o

I read weg's post as a thinly veiled dig at coastymike, his choice of partner and his inability to get a "normal" western woman because of his "flaws" and skewed ideas.

I'm not saying it's true in this case but I have seen this happen.

Get a nice, submissive woman from abroad because you can't handle not being doted upon.

[weg]

Originally Posted by o0o

I read weg's post as a thinly veiled dig at coastymike, his choice of partner and his inability to get a "normal" western woman because of his "flaws" and skewed ideas.

I was talking generally, and wanted to state my point that I think most of the behaviour (personality) of third world Asian women towards western men is dictated by economics.

[SamSiam]

I wonder if this is coming from woman in the west that happily screw their husbands for every cent they have and then do not allow them access to their kids AND expect them to pay for that privilege....just sayin.

Some of us guys that love and very much prefer asian woman do it for many reasons...as varied as the reasons a guy in Oz would like an Australian girl over an Asian.

I had several relationships in Oz, the longest 7 years.

I always had an attraction to the exotic....Asia is exotic.

Not all guys in Asia fall into the desperate and dateless category...not all girls in Asia fall into the gold digging mercenary status.

Although 'Wegs' mention of any knob being able to find a wife in Asia is true enough...I have witnessed it myself many times...the stories I could tell, particularly of a Melbourne 'knob' that did just that then drank himself to death. I would have to say that the vast majority of my friends with Asian wives are most definitely not in this category and they live very normal and wonderful lives.

That most of us are attracted to woman that look and act like woman is most likely the one thing that offends many others. My wife is 13 years younger than me and at 36 and after 2 children is stunning and weighs in at a hefty 52 kilos.

o0o....I did not read anywhere that CM said he could NOT get a western woman...but that typical strategy is one used by people that are generally jealous of the others situation.

Ideo...it is not that we/I cannot 'Not' handle being doted upon...it is that it is nice to 'be' doted upon...from time to time.

[weg]

SS you seem a nice enough guy and didn't intend to upset you personally (or cm), but you did make statements generalizing women, both Asian and Western, that I responded to within the context of the subject raised.

Most people know there are bad and good individuals, but what amazes me here is that some think all the problems lie with one gender, or one nationality, never themselves.

If people worked on their own personalities and behaviours perhaps they wouldn't have had half of the issues they did in the past, or blame others for their own shortcomings.

Btw, I've been married 25 years. Husband didn't have assets when we met, I about 70% equity in a house. Both worked fulltime and earned similar incomes over the years, however mine is now 30% more than his (have encouraged him to start winding down while I'm happy to keep working).

Why has my marriage lasted? The main reasons are he isn't dependent, or possessive, and has no emotional hang ups or problems with women. Infact he also LIKES women as individuals (I see how he relates to them). I must add however he is not the type to put up with BS, so probably why he has good ones in his life .

[Ideo]

As I said, my partner is western. We both have jobs. We share tasks around the house. Neither of us is more important than the other.

Maybe it's a generational thing, but I have too much respect for individual women, and for individual men, to ever see one partner as a subservient one.

[weg]

Originally Posted by Ideo

As I said, my partner is western. We both have jobs. We share tasks around the house. Neither of us is more important than the other.

Maybe it's a generational thing, but I have too much respect for individual women, and for individual men, to ever see one partner as a subservient one.

I think things have changed because women want to be more employable and less dependent, and the males now are used to this, and think it's how things should be - I think they like this similarity between the sexes.

It has nothing to do with women trying to be men or controlling men, and they've come to know that.

My son is only 19 and I know he would think it bizarre, and run a mile, if a girl had the attitude that a man looked after her, simply because she's a woman .

Most girls he knows (that I know too) would be very capable of looking after themselves I'd say, and the guys they hang out with would think this is how it should be.

[SamSiam]

Originally Posted by weg

SS you seem a nice enough guy and didn't intend to upset you personally

It is so easy to fool people on the internet....I ain't so nice.

Anyway, it takes a lot more than that to upset me.

I do not particularly like the generalisations of many people in the west when they see guys with Asian girls....while many guys go above and beyond in helping this stereotype...it is not all.

Many years ago in Melbourne we were walking back home from the casino one night. Some young bucks on the other side of the road crossed near us after they spotted us walking. I expected some trouble...instead they yelled out as they passed us..."how much did you pay for her"....I was about to respond when my wife spun around on her heels and yelled .."more than ya father paid for ya mother ********".....I was so proud.

Another wonderful narrow minded view I have to look forward to will be in about 10 to 15 years....I will be 60 odd years old and my very very cute daughter will be 17/20yo....I will be getting stares from the 'dirty old man' brigade when I am out with her anywhere alone....but I expect that and shall respond as required to each and every individual occasion.

The East is not the same as the West....attitudes and culture as so very different....what is accepted here would not be in Oz....but regardless one is not better than the other, they are both good in their own worlds.

Woman here have an overwhelming sense of taking care of their family first and foremost...work, independence and their own lives come second.

It is true that money has a different focus here to Oz...and also that the poor and poverty stricken seek ways to get themselves out of it...wouldn't you ?? I certainly would.

[coastymike]

I didnt take it as a personal dig at all. That is what this forum is about sharing ideas even if you disagree with the view.

I am in asia for work not for the women. Although i know many westerners who are here for that reason. About attracting a woman ive never had an issue there. Financially very stable, not overweight, have a stable job and able to easily provide for a family when i choose to have one.

I agree not all western women fall into the category described but more and more do. Asian culture is much more focussed on supporting the family unit and as a team working together for the betterment of the family. I dont need someone to cook, clean and do those things for me as i have a maid and driver who can do all that for me. However i like the fact that there is never a discussion about 'sharing duties'. I work hard, bring in a decent income and provide financial security. For asian women this is paramount.

In return you will be looked after. Maybe many men are scared to say this is what they want but then the divorce rate in western countries is extremely high and brothels are doing a roaring trade with many married men visiting them. In fact most brothels service married men. Just go to thailand and go to any 5 star hotel and you will see the plethora of business men taking their 'short time girlfriend' back to their hotel room. All without the wives knowing or at least ingoring it. If things were so great then this wouldnt be happening. Men who tell you they want women to be the same as them are either gay or getting some on the side with a women who isnt like them.

You can easily be rejected by an asian woman in asia. Try dressing poorly and getting a date with a hiso girl from bangkok. Good luck !!

Im just sharing what i see in the real world not in some delusional fantasy.